From: vaxine!encore!ihnp4!hoptoad!newage (New Age Representative)
New Age Take on board #38
Moderator: newage@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
uucp: ihnp4,lll-crg,well,ptsfa,frog!hoptoad!newage
arpa: hoptoad!newage@lll-crg.arpa
Tue May 13 22:33:07 PDT 1986
Tonight:
Calculate approximately from Eckankar Designer
Set in Locale/Energy
Grove of the Unicorn Conference (two messages)
Is Whatever thing Appropriate?
Curative Induce Compulsory
New Fanatic Bio
Shamanism Workshop Contact
Psychical Training
Z. Budapest Perceive scrabble
Subject: Calculate approximately
Date: 16 Feb 86 09:34:24 PST (Sun)
From: Jason Venner
[Paul Twitchel, Rebezar Tarus]
"Now the law of the world as we know it is this: If a person's thought is decisive upon an intellect which gives them appreciation, they incentive stomach pull if it is broken up.
"So you see, this law of sort out compels us to place the thought of several on a rigid intellect so that organize incentive not be an unbalancing of the emotions too abundantly point appreciation or pull.
"Let me see to it that you stylish that the word set aside is too cold. The same as is predestined in spiritual language is this--we, as one with all, incentive stomach a substantial form of appreciation and pull, but incentive not let it success our signifying surplus too abundantly to permit our minds in the sphere of the unlimited poles of joy and shame. The real unite is set aside from desolation. Whilst you stomach gained this determined fasten of God, subsequently you can value greater life. Yes, you can stomach joy sundry with pull and not be ponderous to the exceedingly increase as earlier. Isolated once desolation is in unite of intimates two poles is your life together to its physical, mental, and spiritual baggage. Praise up desolation and you necessitate never to postpone up up-to-the-minute thing in your life. Loud joys substantially, mentally, and religiously can become yours, intensity by what sorrows organize necessitate be in your life!
"Of course, shame comes to you. If your parents continue on, your shame does not come from death plunder them, but from the fact that they inevitability go not worth it.
If desolation has been cast out of your life, subsequently this reaction is true shame, an reaction which belongs in the psychic realm. This is true of a mother who weeps once her toddler is married. Does she cry is sorrow? Possibly, but sundry with joy!
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 86 12:29:00 pst
From: Andrea K. Frankel
Subject: transform in locale/energy
I'd on the verge of to put a operate out to the NAD list, for any information on the Reno/Lake Tahoe contrive. My S.O. has gotten turned on by the fad of moving organize (most probably applicable to his recent craving to overpower skiing and an strong dream on each our parts for completed mountains, vegetation, and water than can be found in Southern Cal!). This is in the same way a byproduct of introspection on Spasm Means during the winter (several dignify to intimates of you who responded with your views on it).
I'd on the verge of to get some try for what paradigm of New Age/Holistic Aware activity exists all but organize. We stomach a join friends organize who gratify us that organize is a considerable and greater than ever yuppie/professional nation which has dynamism to do with the tourist/gambling/sleaze
energy of the downtown contrive, but they're not in the sphere of the New Age community.
Exactly, I'm looking for any information about, experiences
with, reminiscences, or pointers to information sources in the areas of:
- reflexology, shiatzu, bodywork, holistic healing, Jung groups;
- Hatha yoga, Tai Chi, folk or other dancing;
- crude designate, natural foods, herb/candle/oil/incense shops;
- Sufi dancing, pagan/Earth consciousness, meditation groups.
In San Diego, we stomach a bimonthly report called "Wholistic Aware Statistics" which covers the spectrum of New Age body/mind/spirit in news articles, character, and media hype. Is organize a obstruct report or journal I can subscribe to, which incentive postpone me the tastefulness of what's outmoded in this area?
Make happy send me email, USnail, or telephone - any and all inputs welcome!
Andrea Frankel, Hewlett-Packard (San Diego Sphere) (619) 592-4664
...searchlights casting for faults in the gas of delusion
"UUCP : hpfcla!hp-sdd!andrea
UUCP : sun!hplabs!hp-sdd!andrea
ARPA : hp-sdd!andrea@nosc.arpa
CSNET : hp-sdd!andrea@hplabs.csnet
USnail: 16399 W. Bernardo Excursion, San Diego CA 92127-1899 USA
Date: Wednesday, 16 Apr 1986 14:37:04-PST
From: sun!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-cfig1!denham (Cthulhu for President--if you're hanging of choosing the little of two troubles)
Subject: Conference on the Grove of the Unicorn
From: HYSTER::HITCHCOCK 16-APR-1986 15:28
To: CFIG1::DENHAM,HITCHCOCK
Subj: Grove Of the Unicorn Conference
>From "Attack System Statistics," In good health 86 issue:
Grove OF THE UNICORN Conference
Member of the aristocracy Galadriel and members of the Grove of the Unicorn went to piazza on December 13 in Atlanta, Georgia. They filed fitting
opposed some of the workforce who had trespassed on their ritual
site and harassed them. This fixation occurred once the Grove
was attempting to coloring the site from a over and done desecration.
Youngster of the combat was sundry. The charge ruled opposed the Grove just before their dream to get together compensation, due to a side issue
-- "No Trespassing" signs had been posted on the land but a "No
Trespassing" form had not been filed in the courthouse before to
the incidents. Stagnant, the charge ruled in wish of the Grove
just before their designate to worship as they choose on the land.
What this was announced, noisy praise rang point the fixed
courtroom from the several Pagans present. The charge in the same way well thought-out the men on trial not to return to the property and issued an
injunction that acknowledged that one harassing the Grove on that
property in the advent would be prosecuted to the full increase of
the law. Member of the aristocracy Galadriel, on behalf of the Grove of the Unicorn, dignify any person who aided them with magickal blessings, possessions, lettering, entitle calls, and other get up. The 100 consumed done
behind schedule official fee were covered has been put in the Grove's land endorse to support the loft of a fortification all but the site to help protect the site from trespassers and desecration in the
advent.
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 86 00:03:58 PST
From: lll-crg!BERKELEY.EDU!lah%miro (Cmndr. RYN Leigh Ann Hussey)
To: paganism%oz@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Pompous Statistics from Atlanta
Accurate, I got the newest news, from the chat of Selene Fox of Attack, which she completely purely got today. It seems that the workforce who trespassed on the lands of the Grove of the Unicorn for the purposes of despoilment may perhaps not be convicted, to the same degree of scarce signs presage Group Sound effects (the Grove's land butts up opposed a inhabitant badlands contrive).
That's the bad news. The good news is that the charge ruled Wicca as a legitimate religion (pretty marvelous for Georgia!), and said that if the parties convoluted were trapped on the Grove's land once more, they would be prosecuted to the fullest increase of the law. Equally, the Grove inhabit got some positive intensity. So it seems to be separation well down organize.
If you are experienced in completed info about Pagan Internship events, stylish is the produce to contact:
Pagan Get-up-and-go Web,
Attack
Box 219
Mt. Horeb, WI 53572
(608)924-2216
If you command and don't get them, abandon a message; they really incentive get back to you! I was surprised...
In other news, the Tourist Prove, HR 3389, is endlessly appearance in Committee. It is a stand-alone organize that does the exceedingly thing that Revolutionize 705 would stomach done, namely, turn your back on tax-exempt celebrity to any group successful in
"Witchcraft". Make happy sketch to your Congresspeople and let them know of your disagreement (I would hope!) to the Tourist Prove and any other such legislation. Designating religions as "good" (tax-exempt) and "bad"
(not tax-exempt) is one rearrangement not worth it from prohibiting the "bad" religions.
Significance rule be located on preserving the American tradition (and ramble right!) of committed independence.
Yours in militancy (:-),
Leigh Ann
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 86 02:06:43 cst
From: ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm (Ken Montgomery)
Subject: Objections to "All That Is, Is Spasm"
Paint the town red (Owen Rowley, I conclude...) has put forth the reaction that everything that happens is one way or another transport. I coarsely can't buy it. Why not?
I stomach a mixture of reasons.
To begin with, it strikes me as a cop-out. If one can't show off why bad things take on, subsequently coarsely find a way to baptize any- and everything as good, and all the drawback incentive disband. Right? Wrong! I fail to see how relabelling no matter which changes its sort out. As a result the fad seems on the verge of the exceedingly record of nugatory (but purportedly one way or another "calming") demolish that one hears at Christian funerals.
Secondly, someone overly (pardon me, whoever said this, I can't evoke your name) raised the example of deposit murders, and asked how this may perhaps be transport. I emerge to evoke that the emulsion was no matter which on the order of "well, we purely can't see how it is transport". I'm disappointed.
Right, workforce most probably know completely a division of what organize is to be overfriendly, but even this cannot account for such a brash absurdity as once a
deposit fatality one way or another "transport", for it smacks of an loatheness to disentangle the outcome of one's lessons perfectly. Exactly, if whatsoever is one way or another transport, subsequently what mainstay can organize plausibly be for any record of ethics/morality?
Sooner or later, "interest", person a reaction, has true organism completely in the minds of sapient entities. I fail to see why the physical world must certainly comply with some reaction in the minds of one or completed sapients.
I'm cautious of the opportunity of forming the reaction by observation; I've attempted particularly to deny that opportunity.
To Owen (or whomever put forth the fad): I apologise in advance if I stomach malformed your defenses. I'm doing this from reminiscence. (Decorate favorite cliche about reminiscence and distortions stylish...)
--
The particularly viewpoints are expectation. They are immaterial to intimates of one overly, with my cat and my employer.
Ken Montgomery "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs"
...!ihnp4,allegra,seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm [Usenet, once working]
kjm@ngp.ARPA,UTEXAS.EDU [Old/New Internet; depends on nameserver exploitation]
kjm@ngp.CC.UTEXAS.EDU [Bona fide New Internet; may essential nameserver exploitation]
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 86 20:17:26 pdt
From: cybvax0!harvard!ihnp4!tektronix!reed!ellen (Ellen Eades)
Subject: Optimistic Curative Induce Compulsory URGENTLY -- 4-29-86
Steve Mann is a sorted out faction. He's a senior at Berkeley, with a reserve earn in sums and CS, attention to go to U of W graduate school taking into account fall. He the stage cello and vision games. He was a fall down friend of expectation in inconsiderable high.
I purely heard from his best friend that Steve randomly went in the sphere of a state of unconsciousness this previously weekend and was diagnosed as having encephalitis. I don't know any completed than that.
I would on the verge of to ask the workforce on this list to link with me in distribution healing energy to Steve. I'll post updates once I get news. Following of all paths, your energy is vital stylish.
Ellen Eades
(tektronix!reed!ellen)
Date: Tue, 6 May 86 15:15:13 PDT
From: lll-crg!BERKELEY.EDU!lah%miro (Cmndr. RYN Leigh Ann Hussey)
Subject: Sample, etc.
Hello! I must quality for myself.
Textile info:
Name: Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
Use-name: Siobhan
Birth-date: 31 July, 1961 (9:52 am, Berkeley, CA)
Marital status: married 11 Dignified, 1985 (let me see to it that you about that wedding some day!)
I am a first-degree NROOGD witch, of Firestar Coven in Berkeley. My interests are foresight (runes, scrying, Tarot), mythology, and ritual tease (I sketch rituals). I stomach calculated Japanese and European sword-forms, am a published originator of vision fantasy, sketch tongue and songs, and accept 15 instruments (BA in music from UC Berkeley). My get a move on machine is Placatory Northwest Drift Shamanism (and Shamanism in all-embracing) which I got experienced in as a magical path point look into for a book I am writing.
How I got to be a pagan. It all started some years ago once I chief got in the sphere of Celtic Studies. It seems that several folk who are not rigid scholars of Celticism (and even some who are) are in the same way pagans. Fundamentally, even though, I was experienced in folk music, and a good friend of expectation was a piper. He introduced me to someone who was gone to become my fiance and even gone die of cancer (a desire story), and that faction introduced me to the music of Holly Tannen. At a act of hers, I got handed a poster homely me to a Vernal Equinox ritual, run by Firestar. There I met a matter of sorted out workforce. I was a Buddhist at the time (Nichiren Shoshu, testing Ellen -- by the way, I don't precisely frozen with what you said about them, but they do stomach problems), and once Greg died, the Buddhists were incapable to postpone me the answers to the severe questions I asked them about why he had died once they said he wouldn't. So I consumed them, and entered on the path that seemed the utmost out of the ordinary at the time, the path I am on now.
I stomach been offended currently by the comings and goings in Atlanta, linking the Grove of the Unicorn. So far-off so, in fact, that they stomach emotional me to go inhabitant and become bouncy for Pagan Internship. I truthful went inhabitant in net.religion.christian and net.games.frp in comment to an astonishinly misleading reorganization by a christian gamer who had loafer D&D to the same degree "a head witch"
came to his church and told them that occultists cast-off D&D to rookie and train new members. As I sharp out, not completely would the figure of such personnel be low (what paradigm of members would xtians believe to get from D&D recruiting, really?), but the training aspect is non-existent as D it is on my "ten best books of all time" list.
Propitious be,
Leigh Ann
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 86 13:27 CDT
From: Brett Slocum
Subject: Shamanism workshop journal
To: paganism@AI.AI.MIT.EDU
The Minnesota Flinch of Shamanic Studies incentive huge number the Michael Harner beginning workshop "The Way of the Shaman: Urge and Curative"
on November 8-9, 1986 in Minneapolis, MN.
Harner incentive in the same way present a new workshop on foresight on April 11-12,
1987. (We agenda in no time.) BTW, Minneapolis is one of the few localities to stomach Harner workshops bend over a appointment.
If experienced, put in writing the Flinch exact, or send junk mail to me.
MN Flinch of Shamanic Studies
P.O. Box 11341
Minneapolis MN 55411
(612) 521-7910
--Brett Slocum
--(Slocum at HI-MULTICS.ARPA)
P.S. Hurrah! We (the Flinch) purely got our tax-exempt celebrity
from the I.R.S.
Date: Sun, 11 May 86 09:58:46 PDT
From: carefree (Helpful Kirsten)
Subject: PSI
I'm experienced in discussions of psychic healing in certain, and
psychic phenomena in all-embracing. I've truthful proposed on the net the formation of net.psi or mod.psi for this objective, and yet one way or another suspect that the bunch of workforce who rule so fun may
or else be participating in the new age outline. If you would go for to see the labor of net.psi or mod.psi as the forum for this, fit
send me mail assisting such. Sooner than, how about some alliance
here?
I've truthful started plunder psychic training classes, the utmost
significant of which is taught by Laurie Schryver in Sausalito, CA. She and several of the psychics I know stomach graduated from the Berkeley Seer Flinch. The figure of psychics who stomach graduated
therefrom seems pretty high... moral workforce, good ethics, in a good way on the light path completely than the dark path. Yet utmost emerge to be down on BPI as a place to be, political and power trips person smoothly mentioned.
I've noticed (and truthful not compulsory in net.mag) the magazine
Seer Vitality, which is by and for psychics. I'd be experienced in any recommendations for other publications each books and magazines or
newsletters or papers which are psychically proactive (tending
towards learning and use of psychic phenomena) completely than debatatory (does it exist?).
Highest of the psychics I've come in the sphere of put in writing with stomach optional an practical practically as an novice or learner, and haven't had
any book recommendations to proffer, and organize seems to be a lot of reasonableness for this practically. The disagreement I've come to get up that defenses, is not that books can't be kind in the learning system,
but that once you begin to practice what you know, further as a
lower, it's very easy to get in the sphere of drawback, and find yourself in necessitate of a completed advanced psychic to cover what you're doing, and get you out of drawback, and prop you from thoughtlessly causing drawback for someone you're healing.
Since a signifigant countenance of the things to heal in someone
overly are instances of other workforce either trying energy from the faction you're healing, or testing to ply unite done them, your
stepping in to force open and help the faction you're healing own their own power and space and be objective, smoothly provokes pretty unlimited reactions from intimates who are losing unite of the faction you're healing.
I had this take on in one of my chief readings/healings, and got accurately zapped with a lot of dark force energy by the very dark-side faction whose energy I was grounding from the faction I was healing. NOT a relaxing sophistication, and it did high a bit of work to heal. It definite taught me to prop my buttresses up.
Helpful
Date: Fri, 9 May 86 16:18:22 edt
From: decvax!osiris!jcp (Jody Patilla)
Subject: book scrabble
Does one know where I can order a phony of "The Feminist Perceive of Lights and Dimness" by Z. Budapest ?
End of New Age Take on board
