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Wednesday, 16 May 2012

Another Traditional Evocation Question

Another Traditional Evocation Question Image
On the previous thread about Lisiewski's evocation methods, golden-dawn-hermetic wrote:

We all work classical grimoires, many are pre-Agrippa and Dee. It is one of the classical tests of spirits. You should ask them to move a physical object to prove they are present during an evocation.

I realize that the last article I posted was a bit snarky, but I am genuinely interested to see whether or not this effect exists and whether or not it can be managed and controlled reliably.

I have encountered a few physical effects during evocations, mostly things like candles flickering in unusual ways when the spirit manifests, breezes, and temperature changes in the room, but nothing that would rise to the level of small objects moving on their own. What sort of objects do you normally ask the spirit to move? I suppose you could hang a pendulum in the triangle or Holy Table and ask the spirit to make it swing or spin. Or are you talking about something more substantial, like commanding the spirit to slide around or levitate an object like a small stone or crystal?

I'm going to totally sound like James Randi here for a minute, and I apologize in advance, but if the spirits you summon can really move something as heavy as a small stone, why aren't you rich? I know, I've belittled skeptics for making that argument in the past, because it is a serious error to assume that if if you can create "any" sort of paranormal effect you should be able to accomplish "every" paranormal effect ever reported without limitations of any kind. But there is a genuine reason behind my asking. Theoretically, a spirit that is substantial enough to move a stone around could certainly line up a few ping-pong balls in a particular order, and in our modern world that's all you need to do to win a lottery jackpot. Or am I missing something here?

As readers of this blog know, I do lottery magick from time to time. It's a really good test of operant ability because all of the probabilities are spelled out. We know the exact odds for matching one number, two numbers, and so forth, and this allows me to gage the evolution of my magical abilities and also evaluate the effectiveness of different ritual methods. The best technique that I've come up with so far is the evocation of the four Enochian Watchtower Kings, though some recent work with the "Heptarchia Mystica" has suggested additional possibilities involving the Heptarchial Kings and Princes that I have yet to test.

My best result with the Watchtower Kings is 4 numbers out of 6 on the Powerball, and if there's a set of traditional grimoire spirits I could be using who can beat that I'm all for it. Even matching five numbers wins you real money. I do find some of the traditional grimoire methods cumbersome and time-consuming, but what's spending forty days on an operation if it means that afterwards you'll have enough money to spend the rest of your life working magick rather than working a normal job that consumes your waking hours? I know I'd be willing to make that trade.

UPDATE: For those of you who don't follow Strategic Sorcery, Jason Miller has his own article up over there on the subject of psychokinetic phenomena during evocations. He makes several good points, as usual.